Thursday October 19th 2017

What is the Trinity?

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The Trinity is one of the greatest mysteries of the Catholic faith.  Catholics believe that there is One God.  Yet, the One God has three persons who are equally God.  God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are the three persons of GOD and are all of the same nature, substance and being. I have heard it explained that if the Trinity was to be explained by math, it would not be, 1+1+1=3. It would be 1x1x1=1.

The Father is unique from the son because the Father has no origin.  He is self-existing or eternal.  But, Jesus, the Son, is eternally begotten, from the Father or proceeding from the Father.  Jesus is God’s word made flesh.  Lastly, the Holy Spirit eternally proceeds from both the Father and the Son.  He is God’s love and does God’s work.

Interestingly enough, the word “Trinity” is a term that is not found in the Bible. Nevertheless, the Bible clearly speaks of God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit; and also clearly states that there is only one God.

The Gospel of John 16: 13 – 15 is a good example of scripture referring to the Trinity.  “But when he comes, the Spirit of truth, he will guide you to all truth.  He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears, and will declare to you the things that are coming.  He will glorify me, because he will take from me what is mine and declare it to you.  Everything the Father has is mine; for this reason I told you that he will take from what is mine and declare it to you.”

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3 Responses to “What is the Trinity?”

  1. Carl says:

    The easiest way to defend the trinity is to compare it with what the Bible says about God. If the two agree 100%, then that should confirm that the trinity is based squarely on Scripture. But is that the case? Well, judge for yourself:

    1. THE BIBLE says the Father–a single person–is the “only true God.” (John 17:3).

    1A. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says that “every Person [of the trinity] BY HIMSELF [is] God.” That’s THREE GODS!

    2. THE BIBLE says that “for us there is one God, the Father.” (1 Cor. 8:6)

    2A. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says “we worship one God IN TRINITY.”

    3. THE BIBLE says the “Father is greater…” (John 14:28)

    3A. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says: “In this trinity, NONE is greater…”

    4. THE BIBLE says Jesus is the Son of God. (John 20:31)

    4A. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says “Jesus IS God,” which makes him a different God from the “one God in trinity.”

    5. THE BIBLE says the “Father is greater…” (John 14:28)

    5A. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE say that “the whole three persons [of the trinity] are “co-equal.”

    6. THE BIBLE says the holy spirit is not God, but a possession of God and that he gives it to deserving ones. As 1 Thess. 4:8 says: “Therefore, whoever disregards this, disregards not a human being but God, who (also) gives HIS holy Spirit to you.”

    6A. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says that “the holy spirit IS God.” However, A Catholic Dictionary says: “On the whole, the New Testament, like the Old, speaks of the spirit as a divine energy or power.” It adds: “The majority of New Testament texts reveal God’s spirit as someTHING, not someONE.”

    7. THE BIBLE says that the Father is the ONLY person that “the true worshipers” (Christians) should worship. (John 4:23)

    7A. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says: “The trinity in unity is to be worshiped.”

    So, do the Bible and the trinity doctrine agree on who God is? Absolutely not! And in the words of the New Catholic Encyclopedia, it says that the trinity “is NOT directly and immediately the Word of God.”

  2. Carl says:

    The author of the trinity articles says: “I have heard it explained that if the Trinity was to be explained by math, it would not be, 1+1+1=3. It would be 1x1x1=1.”

    Is the 1 x 1 x 1 = 1 analogy correct in illustrating the three persons in the one God? Absolutely not? Why not? Well, consider this. One person multiplied by one person is still one person. Then, multiply that one person by another one person. And what do you have? SYou still have one person. So, one person equals God. This is Biblically correct since the Father, NOT a trinity of persons, is one God. As 1 Cor. 8:6 says: “There is one God, the Father. Eph. 4:6 adds that there is “one God and Father of all.”

    So, is God a trinity of persons? No. Instead, the Father is the “only true God.” (John 17:3)

    The author of the trinity article says: “The Gospel of John 16: 13 – 15 is a good example of scripture referring to the Trinity. ‘But when he comes, the Spirit of truth, he will guide you to all truth. He will not speak on his own, but he will speak what he hears, and will declare to you the things that are coming. He will glorify me, because he will take from me what is mine and declare it to you. Everything the Father has is mine; for this reason I told you that he will take from what is mine and declare it to you.’”

    Look closely in John 16:13-15. Where in those verses does it say or even suggest that:

    1. The Father, Son, and holy spirit are each God and that they all make up one God? Answer: NOWHERE!

    2. “we worship one God in trinity”? Answer: NOWHERE

    3. “in this trinity, none is greater or less than another”? Answer: “NOWHERE!

    4. the Father, Son, and holy spirit “are one Incomprehensible”? NOWHERE!

    5. “the Godhead of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Ghost is all One, the Glory Equal, the Majesty Co-Eternal”? Answer: NOWHERE!

    So, does John 16:13-15 say or even imply that God is a trinity? Not even close!

    One last thing. The author of the trinity article says: “The Bible clearly speaks of God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit.” REALLY? Where in ANY Catholic Bible can the terms “God the Son” and “God the holy spirit” be found. The answer is NOWHERE!

    The fact is that there is no trinity. The Father is the “ONLY true God.” (John 17:3)

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